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INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch
(Conference Call)
Event Date/Time: Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Carlos Brito
InBev NV CEO
Felipe Dutra
InBev NV CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Carlos Laboy
Credit Suisse Analyst
James Edwardes Jones
Execution Limited Analyst
Andrew Holland
Dresdner Analyst
Nico Lambrechts
Merrill Lynch Analyst
Marc Leemans
Bank Degroff Analyst
Chris Wickham
MainFirst Bank Analyst
David Belaunde
Lehman Brothers Analyst
Mark Purdy
Deutsche Bank Analyst
Andrew Gowen
Och-Ziff Analyst
Martin Dolan
Execution Limited Analyst
Gerard Rijk
ING Analyst
Reg Watson
Standard Life Analyst
Kris Kippers
Petercam Analyst
Paul Hofman
Cheuvreux Analyst
Mark Gillespie
MainFirst Bank Analyst
Stuart Reeve
BlackRock Analyst
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to todays conference call
regarding InBevs proposal to combine with Anheuser-Busch. At this time, all participants have been
placed in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will open the call for a
question-and-answer session. We do ask to please limit your questions to one question and one
follow-up.
The speakers on this call are Carlos Brito, Chief Executive Officer, and Felipe Dutra, Chief
Financial Officer. Neither this presentation nor any of the transactions referred to herein
constitutes an offer of securities for sale in the United States or an offer to acquire or exchange
securities in the United States.
The securities that may be issued pursuant to the terms and conditions of the transactions referred
to herein have not been nor will be registered under the US Securities Act of 1933 as amended; the
Securities Act or the securities of any state or any other country other than Belgium, and may not
be offered, pledged, transferred or sold absent registration of such securities under the
Securities Act or the securities laws of such state or country as the case may be, or an available
exemption from such registration.
Under the terms and conditions of and connection with the transactions referred to herein, no offer
to acquire securities or to exchange securities for other securities has been made or will be made
directly or indirectly, in or into, or by use of the mails any means or instrumentality of
interstate or foreign commerce or any facilities of a national securities exchange of the United
States or any other country in which such offer may not be made, other than in accordance with the
tender offer requirements under the US Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended or the securities
laws of such other countries as the case may be, or pursuant to an available exemption form for
such requirements.
Now I would like to turn the call over to InBevs Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Carlos Brito. Sir,
you may begin.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Thank you very much. Good afternoon, good morning, everyone. I have here with me Felipe Dutra,
our CFO, and thanks for joining. As you have seen yesterday, we announced a proposal to combine
Anheuser-Busch and InBev, creating a global leader in beer and one of the worlds top five consumer
products companies.
We believe this combination is in the best interest of all constituents, including both company
shareholders, employees, consumers, wholesalers, business partners and the communities they serve.
This compelling combination would create significant value for both companies shareholders and
unparalleled opportunities for the combined businesses.
We are extremely excited about this potential combination, and before we get to the details, let me
start by expressing our deep respect and admiration for Anheuser-Busch, its management and its
board. Anheuser-Busch and InBev have been partners for a long time. We have started our
relationship 28 years ago with a distribution agreement of Anheuser-Busch brands in Canada.
This relationship has been expanded to South Korea and also more recently to the US, through the
import and distribution agreement of our European imports brands. We believe this combination is
the natural next step in our relationship and a great opportunity to leverage the iconic Budweiser
brand and its heritage worldwide. Budweiser is already one of the most recognized and beloved
brands in the world. It is our intention to expand Budweiser even further through our extensive
distribution network.
If you go to the next page, briefly looking at the agenda for todays call, we will start with a
quick summary of the proposed transaction. Then well give you a snapshot of the proposed
combination. Subsequently, we will dig a bit deeper in the benefits of the transaction for
Anheuser-Busch shareholders. We would like then to review InBevs track record since the merger
between Interbrew and AmBev, and finally provide a quick wrap-up before jumping to Q&A.
The next page you will see that we are offering $65 per share in an all-cash bid for all
outstanding shares, an immediate premium of 35% over Anheuser-Busch 30-day average share price
prior to recent market speculation, and 18% over Anheuser-Busch previous all-time high of $54.97
per share achieved in October 2002.
The total consideration to Anheuser-Busch shareholders is $47.5 billion. We would also assume $9.1
billion of existing debt at AB. In terms of multiples, the offer price represents 12 times
Anheuser-Busch 2007 EBITDA. We firmly believe that this is a compelling offer for Anheuser-Busch
shareholders, creating immediate and certain value, as well as a significant return on their
investments.
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
The financing of the transaction will be done through a combination of at least $40 billion of new
debt, divestitures of noncore assets, and equity finance. We have received strong support from a
group of leading financial institutions, which together would be prepared to provide all the
financing required to complete this transaction. We are committed to rapidly deleverage the
Company, and the cost of that financing for the proposed transaction is expected to be fully
consistent with an investment-grade credit profile.
With respect to the equity, we will maintain a disciplined approach to equity issuance, given that
it is our most expensive funding source. Under the proposed terms, the transaction is fully
consistent with our strict acquisition value creation criteria and is expected to be EPS accretive
within the second full year of the combination.
Page 5. We believe this is an exciting opportunity and a winning combination for multiple reasons.
Firstly, the proposed combination with Anheuser-Busch creates the global leader in beer with
Budweiser becoming the new business flagship brand.
Secondly, this transaction would create one of the worlds top five largest consumer products
companies, bringing the new business size in line with other global leaders such as P&G and
PepsiCo.
Thirdly, we believe that this combination will create a stronger company to succeed in the changing
and increasingly competitive US beer landscape and benefit multiple stakeholders, including
shareholders, employees, wholesalers and the communities they serve. We highly value the strength
of the Budweiser brand and intend to name the combined company to invoke Anheuser-Buschs heritage
and importance of the Budweiser brand.
We are committed to the City of St. Louis. We will make St. Louis the North American headquarters
of the combined business. In addition, this will be the global home of the Budweiser brand family
as it grows internationally, creating new opportunities in St. Louis and around the globe. We
attribute the success of Anheuser-Busch to the close collaboration between its world-class
distributor, network and the Company, and look forward to strengthen this relationship even further
under the three-tier system.
There will be no closure of US breweries as part of this transaction. We view ABs current US
brewery footprint to be highly efficient and able to support continued growth in the US market.
Last, but not least, we have a high respect and admiration for Grupo Modelos achievements and are
keen to explore possibilities to expand its brands in other markets.
Now let me pass to Felipe.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Thank you, Brito. Hello, everyone. If we move then to page 7, this transaction creates a truly
global leader in beer for accelerated value creation. On a pro forma basis for 2007, the combined
business would have generated total beer volume of 460 million hectoliters. Total revenues would
have reached EUR26.6 billion with EBITDA of EUR7.8 billion, with a total pro forma EBITDA margin of
29.4%, without taking into account potential benefits from the combination.
If we then move to page 6, when we compare the combined business pro forma numbers with its main
competitors, the new business would be over 60% larger in terms of volumes and revenues, and more
than 140% in EBITDA terms.
Moving on to page 9, we will become one of the worlds top five consumer products companies,
joining the ranks of highly respected and global companies such as PepsiCo and P&G. In EBITDA
terms, the combined business would rank in third place in consumer products companies.
Moving on to page 10, the complementarity of our geographical footprints will provide the
leadership positions in key global markets, including, number one in both North America and Latin
America, and number two, in Europe and Asia.
Moving then to page 11, we will continue to have a benefit exposure to high-growth developing
markets and developed markets, becoming the most diversified player in the beer industry. The
combined business would have a 47/43% split between developed and developing markets in revenues,
and more importantly, a well-balanced 47/53% split between developed and developing markets in
operating profits, all on a 2007 pro forma basis. Our complementary geographical footprint will
provide a natural hedge during various economic cycles and currency fluctuations, resulting in a
stronger, more dynamic and resilient competitor.
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Moving then to page 12, we foresee strong growth opportunities through leveraging our portfolio of
brands across an unparalleled global distribution network. Budweiser, the iconic US brand, would
become the global flagship brand. And together with our existing global premium import brands,
Stella Artois and Becks, would create the ultimate premium portfolio.
We will leverage our global footprint to unleash Budweisers full potential and globalize ABs
brands, increasing its availability to consumers around the world. InBev would also leverage its
go-to-market capabilities worldwide, as well as in Latin America where through a successful
partnership with PepsiCo, InBev is today the second largest bottler outside the US.
In addition, we foresee opportunities to further accelerate the growth of our premium European
import brands in US where we already have an import and distribution agreement with AB. We
recognize this trend of ABs wholesaler network and look forward to building on our current
relationship by growing both existing and new brands with them.
We are fully committed to the three-tier distribution system in the US, and we will work to ensure
that this model performs as effectively as it has in the past.
If we move then to page 13, China, the worlds largest beer market, is another example of how we
can leverage our strengths. Our presence in the Southeast complements ABs market reach into
Northeast, resulting in an immediate potential for growth of Budweiser in the Southwest, as well as
InBevs brands in the Northeast. Our market share would nearly double in China to a combined 21%,
providing a much stronger position in this fast-growing market.
We also have a deep respect and admiration for ABs strategic partner in China, Tsingtao, and would
look forward to strengthening even further the relationship.
Now lets review in more details some further benefits for AB and its shareholders with Brito.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Thanks, Felipe. If we go to page 15. With the strong and highly complementary positions with
the combined business in the top five beer markets in the world, we have a great opportunity for
expansion of the combined portfolio of brands led by Budweiser.
Next page. In reality, InBev and Anheuser-Busch have had successful experience in building and
expanding Budweiser together outside of the US since the 80s. The partnership that brought the
strength of the Budweiser brand together with InBev sales and distribution skills has transformed
Budweiser into the number one selling beer in Canada today. Bud Light is also the fastest-growing
beer in Canada, having grown more than 30% alone last year.
Anheuser-Busch and InBev share a very strong commitment to the highest quality of its beer. We have
been brewing Budweiser for a number of years in our Canadian breweries.
Next page. We are heavily involved in the marketing of Budweiser and leverage official NFL Super
Bowl sponsorships and regional events like the Grand Prix and the Calgary Stampede in Canada.
Recently, Anheuser-Busch and InBev have jointly renewed their focus and efforts behind Bud Light in
Canada, transforming it into the fastest-growing brand in the country. Effectively, Bud Light has
gained more than three percentage points of market share in Canada in the last three years.
As a result, sales of Anheuser-Busch brands in Canada have grown by an average annual growth rate
of 7.6% since 1987. And the market share of this brand has grown from 3% to 15% during this time
and they continue to grow.
Page 18. St. Louis would play an expanded role as the North American headquarters of the combined
company. St. Louis will also be the global home for the expansion of the flagship Budweiser brand.
We understand the importance of Anheuser-Busch to the St. Louis community, and InBev intends to
build on Anheuser-Buschs reputation as a highly quality employer and a responsible corporate
citizen, and looks forward to participating as a member of the community.
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Today InBevs dream is to become the best beer company in a better world. We use the term better
world to articulate our belief that if we are to become the best beer company measured by
profitability, we must work hard in getting better as a company and also in helping to improve the
world around us.
We expect the combined business to bring together the best practices and processes of each one of
the companies into a global platform, which can achieve more for employees, the community and the
environment than either company could do on its own.
Page 19. There will be no closure of US breweries as part of the transaction. We view ABs current
US brewery footprint to be highly efficient and able to support continued growth in the US market.
Next page. We firmly believe that strong business growth is an essential lever for job creation.
InBevs growth during the last four years has added 12,000 full-time jobs to our payroll worldwide,
support by increasing revenue and in the growth of our business. We believe that the combination of
Anheuser-Busch and InBev will translate into significant top-line growth for the combined business
and offer great job opportunities for employees of both companies, as well as career chances for
new talent.
Now back to Felipe.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Turning to our own track record on page 22, the Interbrew AmBev merger in 2004 has
overdelivered on its promises. There are a number of factors that were critical to our success
since the creation of InBev. First and foremost, we quickly established our company dream to become
the number one global brewery as measured by EBITDA margin by 2007. In fact, we achieved this one
year ahead of schedule.
Key to this performance was ensuring the establishment of one single, high-performance culture led
by great people. And further reinforced by a target setting and cascading system directly linked to
our variable compensation system.
If we then move to page 23. We have a strong confidence in our business model, which has a proven
track record since the creation of InBev. This model has allowed us to grow volumes ahead of the
global beer industry, grow revenues ahead of funds growth, and achieve further EBITDA margin
improvement through productivity enhancements and operating efficiencies.
As a consequence, we have delivered 16.2% organic average EBITDA growth between 2004 and 07. Our
EBITDA margin expanded by close to 900 basis points in the period, and absolute EBITDA expanded
from EUR2.1 billion in 2004 to EUR5 billion in 2007. More recently, we have prioritized cash flow
generation, and in 2007 financial results have shown a EUR400 million improvement in core working
capital.
We remain committed to our business model, which will continue to deliver EBITDA margin expansion
through a combination of top-line growth and disciplined cost management. Top-line growth will
remain our priority as we are linking an even more significant part of our variable compensation
program to improved market share performance.
Moving then to page 24, between 2005 and 07, we have also shown great consistency in our
performance with job growth between 5% and 6% and turnover growth between 7% and 8% in each of
those years. Over that period, we saw EBITDA margins expanding from 28.6% to 34.6%. Our winning
brands in key markets around the world are, of course, one of the key drivers to our success. These
brands are what makes us unique and are the lifeblood of our Company. And we are particularly proud
of having such strong brands in so many countries. Our business model combines extremely strong
local brands, supported by a portfolio of global brands. Today we are the favorite brand in 6 out
of 10 of the most important markets.
If we then move to page 26, since the Interbrew AmBev transaction, we have established a strong
track record of delivering value through operational excellence and selected M&A transactions. This
has been critical in the transformation of our Company from the small, regional players to a global
leader in beer.
For example, in 1990 Interbrew was the 10th largest brewer by volume in the world, and by 2007,
InBev was the clear number one in terms of absolute EBITDA. In the past three years, we have
achieved nearly 110% of total shareholders return.
Now turning back to you, Brito.
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Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Thanks. And now on the last page, next page. So in a nutshell, this transaction as significant
value and unparalleled opportunities for all stakeholders. It will create the true global leader in
beer with Budweiser as its flagship brand. Our diversified footprint in developed and developing
markets and our complementary portfolio of leading brands would create a stronger, more competitive
player in the industry. Our combined extensive distribution networks will give us unmatched
capability to grow our brands and increase their availability to consumers around the world.
Finally, we firmly believe that this combination will create significant value for both
Anheuser-Busch and InBev shareholders. Okay, so again, thank you very much and now lets go to the
Q&A.
Operator, please back to you.
QUESTION AND ANSWER
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(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Carlos Laboy, Credit Suisse.
Carlos Laboy Credit Suisse Analyst
Good morning, Brito. What insights can you give us on where you would put the debt, and how
you would structure the financing for this?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Let me ask Felipe to comment on that, Carlos.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Hi, Carlos. The current offer is made at the InBev level and will be composed by about 40 or
not less than $40 billion new debt at the InBev level, plus $9.1 billion. We are talking here about
US dollars rollover net debt, and approximately $8.3 billion as a combining fact of disposals and
new equity.
Carlos Laboy Credit Suisse Analyst
So there would be no debt put at the AmBev level?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
No.
Carlos Laboy - Credit Suisse Analyst
Thank you.
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James Edwardes Jones, Execution Limited.
James Edwardes Jones Execution Limited Analyst
Afternoon here, guys. A couple of questions. You havent made any comment on synergies. Can
you offer us any advice there, in particular of the commitment to keep the breweries open in any
way constrain your ability to get ZBB savings of at least 15% of fixed cost?
Secondly, can you expand a bit on the provisions of the shareholder agreement between
Anheuser-Busch and Modelo; in particular what clauses would be invoked in the event of a change of
control at Anheuser-Busch?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Hi, James. Its Brito here. I think its at this point a bit premature to discuss a target for
synergies. As you know in the transactions and combinations weve done before, weve always done
that at the moment we announced a deal was reached. And weve always pretty much delivered on those
targets, so you know we take it very seriously.
Of course, we have conducted a preliminary analysis based on public information, and the view we
have today is that these synergies would get us to meet our internal financial benchmarks for an
acquisition in terms of spread, of (inaudible) and EPS accretion, which were good about that. And
the key drivers of the synergies would center around, first, as we did in all other combinations of
the last eight years, three of them, cross implementation of best practices, ZBB, ZPO, down to ZCP.
So all the way from cost to commercial top line, brewery, management, leverage the Budweiser brand
across a global distribution system and continue to leverage and support more our brands in the US
through their distribution system, so top line.
Third one would be procurement and global supply chain management. I think theres a lot to be
gained here with scale; thats important, to work better with suppliers, partnerships, better
terms. Working capital, were learning more and more about working capital as you know every year,
and also the CapEx requirements. I think also when you look at a combined business, theres some
opportunities that we see today.
Also, by bringing two companies together, public companies, youd save some public companies costs
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geographies and also overlap in corporate functions that well deal with. So this is pretty much,
lets say, the six, seven drivers of synergies. And again, those synergies right now make us feel
good about getting to our benchmarks for an acquisition of this type.
In terms of your second question about the Modelo and AB, Felipe will take that one.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Yes, in terms of the, lets say, shareholders that were in it, we know what you know, which is
based on public documents. And we would hope to work with Modelo Group to find new opportunities to
further accelerate the development of their brands outside North America.
James Edwardes Jones Execution Limited Analyst
Just for clarity, can you tell us when you expect the RoIT to exceed the WAC on the
transaction?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Not at this stage.
James Edwardes Jones Execution Limited Analyst
Okay, thank you very much, guys.
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Operator
Andrew Holland, Dresdner.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Could I just refer back to your answer to Carlos first question where you talked about
disposals. Can you give me a figure for your expected disposal receipts and also for the size of
any equity issue that you anticipate doing? And if you could tell us what you intend to sell, that
would be very helpful.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Yes, we said that in terms of source of funds for this transaction, we expect approximately
$8.3 billion to come from disposals and new equity. We are not in a position to disclose which
noncore assets we are considering to divest at this stage. But I could say that we have defined a
package of noncore assets across the combined business that could be divested, allowing us to
minimize the size of the (inaudible) in connection with this transaction.
I can also disclose that some of the parameters that we have used in selecting those assets that
could be potentially divested around, first, assets that are not fully integrated with our overall
business and that could be easily separated from the Company, by minimizing tax consequences, of
course, and also in terms of marketability, assets for which we are very confident we can obtain
attractive values upon divestment. But this is all that I can say at this stage.
It is important to keep in mind that equity for us is a very expensive currency, as we clearly
believe that the current market price does not reflect InBevs full potential.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Thank you, and could I just have one follow-up? Youve made it clear in your answer to the
first question that the whole deal is being done at the InBev level. I think a lot of us had
speculated that you might do it at the AmBev level. Can you tell us, given the apparent tax
advantage of doing it at the AmBev level, why youve chosen not to do it at the AmBev level?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Yes, the transaction is being done at the InBev level, and the new debt is likely to be based
in the US in order to benefit from the tax affectability at a very high corporate rate.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Sorry, I didnt actually catch the answer. Could you repeat that, please?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
The point is the tax benefit will be captured by pushing down as much debt as possible into
US, given the very high effective tax rate.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Okay, so does that mean that the US profits of Anheuser-Busch will be effectively channeled
through AmBev?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
No, AmBev is not part of the transaction and will not be affected.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Okay, can you tell me a bit more how this tax benefit will work in the absence of AmBev then?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
The tax benefit is related to the profits being generated in the US vis-a-vis the US tax
effective tax rate, which is right above our weighted average effective tax rate at the InBev
level. Is this Carlos?
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
So how does that benefit your tax charge?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Sorry, but there are many people on the line. I wont be able to further explore that, but I
am glad to take that offline with you afterwards.
Andrew Holland Dresdner Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Nico Lambrechts, Merrill Lynch.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
First question is what is the hurdle rate that you are using for this transaction?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Well, that is part of our internal models. I mean, at this point its not public.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
Would it be around seven?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Again, that is our internal stuff at this point.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
Okay. Second question, you mentioned, Carlos, on the call that the deal will be EPS accretive
in year two. Could you give us some of the assumptions? Does that assume there is some equity
raised, and does that assume phasing of what percentage of cost savings have been realized?
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
That is assuming at least $40 billion of new debt and the $8.3 billion coming from the
combination of disposals and new equity. That is what we have on the model. But we are not
disclosing at this stage any specific number related to (inaudible) divestitures, neither synergize
within that model.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
But we should assume in that model there is some equity.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Yes, there is some equity in there.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
And then a third question, some of your peers like Imperial Tobacco bought companies in the
US. They got a goodwill tax deductibility. Would you be possible to get the similar benefit because
you will there will be a lot of goodwill arising from such a transaction?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
I wouldnt enter into that territory, other than saying that that will be as much as possible
allocated into US.
Operator
Marc Leemans, Bank Degroof.
Marc Leemans Bank Degroff Analyst
Thank you. Well, most of my questions have been answered, but perhaps one still. Could you
give us a rough idea of the blended coupon rate the combined company would have?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
We have committed to first to leverage the combined company as fast as possible. And secondly .
Marc Leemans Bank Degroff Analyst
Leveraging by sorry.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
And secondly, by keeping strong investment-grade rating profile, which then brings us to
comparable transactions and to comparable credit profiles, meaning you should assume as expected in
terms of interest rate costs to finance this transaction, being in line with the investment-grade
rating profile.
Marc Leemans Bank Degroff Analyst
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
Okay, thank you. And how soon do you think those divestments will be done?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
We will see. We are at this stage focused, have opportunities to sit down with AB board and
management in order to further discuss our current proposal.
Operator
Mark Gillespie, MainFirst Bank.
Chris Wickham MainFirst Bank Analyst
Its Chris Wickham here. I was just wondering if we can just move away beyond the financings
and get back onto the other side of things when it seems that you are expecting to have
Anheuser-Busch add significant value to your businesses elsewhere. Could you give us two or three
bullets on where they might be able to do this?
And also, I am interested to know how you get around some of the issues to do with the brand name
in Europe.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
I think we see as a top-line opportunity, I mean we see what other companies in the US have
done, namely PepsiCo, [BOA], P&G, GE, so many companies that were able to expand American iconic
brands throughout the world, and we see a similar opportunity here. We have business in 30
countries. We have some multicountry brands getting to global status like Stella and Becks.
Of course, in this new combined company Budweiser would be our flagship brand. It is a brand that
is known by a lot of consumers around the world, and there is a trend today in consumers that in
some locations they look for what they call international or what we call international premium
brands. And Budweiser, given the properties and its quality and heritage, would fit greatly in that
occasion match in terms of product and need. So that is where we see a great fit in many, if not
most, of the countries we operate.
Chris Wickham MainFirst Bank Analyst
Okay, and so should we be assuming a fair amount of cannibalization of your existing business,
or do you think it is simply a question of you using your go-to-market capabilities to gain share
for the brand?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
No, I think today what opportunity weve talked to you many times before is that we see a mix
enhancement in our business as a real opportunity. So with the international premium brands
supported on a global scale like Budweiser, we see that we could be capturing pockets of volume
that today somehow are not open to our portfolio in some locations, in some countries. So we think
it could be complementary. In some places, there could be cannibalization. But in most places, it
would be complementary in our view.
Operator
David Belaunde, Lehman Brothers.
David Belaunde Lehman Brothers Analyst
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
A couple of very quick questions. When you talked about Modelo and the potential cooperation
with Modelo, have you already had talks with them to see to what extent you can hold how far you
could bring that corporation?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
No, no, we havent yet. Given that our offer now is public, we will try to see the appropriate
time and then establish that line of contact.
David Belaunde Lehman Brothers Analyst
Okay. If I could just follow up very quickly on the financing structure, again, is that
normally in the past youve tried to match the debt profile in terms of currency with the profile
of your cash flows. Now, obviously with these transactions if all the debt for the acquisition is
in dollars and based in the US, there will be a big mismatch. Will you try to correct that by doing
some swapping into of part of the debt into the Brazilian real or EUR, etc., or will you just
keep everything in US dollars?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
No. This approach is consistent with our risk management policy, and it is a fair assumption
that we will always be looking for the right balance between outstanding debt and cash flow
generation.
David Belaunde Lehman Brothers Analyst
Okay. All right, thank you very much and congratulations.
Operator
Mark Purdy, Deutsche Bank.
Mark Purdy Deutsche Bank Analyst
The full-year results last year or earlier this year, rather you increased the dividend
payout ratio to 80%. Given the deleveraging required here, will you be able to maintain the
dividend payout ratio at 80%, or are we likely to have to see a dividend cut?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Given the (inaudible) nature of that transaction being proposed, I would say that its fair to
soon that for a period of two to three years dividends may be reduced, resuming to its previous
levels after that period of time, as from year before.
Mark Purdy Deutsche Bank Analyst
Can you give any guide as to what the payout ratio may have to fall to?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
No, not at this stage.
Operator
Andrew Gowen, Och-Ziff.
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Andrew Gowen Och-Ziff Analyst
Quick question just in terms of if there is the necessity, I guess, to increase your offer
price or I guess put another way, how much flexibility do you have on that minimum of $40 billion
of new additional debt, so if you do have to raise your offer price will it be additional equity or
additional debt?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Well, I think our $65 share, all-cash price per share, I think it is a full and fair price. It
is a 35% over Anheuser-Busch, say the average share price prior to recent market speculation, and
18% over the all-time price high of $54.97 per share in October 2002. So it is a full and fair
price. And according to our culture here of ownership and being top management here, we have good
stakes in the Company.
We will only proceed with this transaction if it creates value for our shareholders. So that is a
must. We have our internal guidelines and thresholds, and we think this price is the full and fair
price for this combination.
Andrew Gowen Och-Ziff Analyst
I guess could I just sort of follow that up? It was more, I guess, a question about leverage
and gearing rather than the absolute offer price. It was more your understanding or Felipes
understanding of what constitutes investment-grade and how much opportunity you have to increase, I
guess, the debt component relative to the equity component.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
At this point, again, I would like to say it is a full and fair price, 35% premium over the
average of 30 days. And again, we think it is the right price.
Andrew Gowen Och-Ziff Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Operator
Martin Dolan, Execution Limited.
Martin Dolan Execution Limited Analyst
Good morning, guys, or good afternoon in our case. Just a point clarity. On the debt capacity
on the new business, just to get it clear its $40 billion of new debt, $9 billion of Anheuser
debt, plus the EUR5 billion that InBev currently holds. Is that correct?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
Well, not less than $40 billion new debt, and $9.1 billion rollover net debt, and then, as I
said, the $8.3 billion as a combined result of disposals and equity.
Martin Dolan Execution Limited Analyst
Okay. And secondly, if I may, because it could be pretty key, have you had any contact with
Anheuser shareholders and in particular Warren Buffett?
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Well, at this point, we have sent a letter to them on June 11th, so yesterday. And what they
said publicly in a statement is that they are going to review our proposal carefully, evaluate
that, and pursue the course of action in the best interest of AB shareholders. We are very pleased
to hear this. Our objective is really to reach a friendly agreement with ABs board, and we respect
there board a lot and we think the board will act in the best interest of shareholders as stated
here. So were very happy with the reaction.
Martin Dolan Execution Limited Analyst
But have you contacted any shareholders directly?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
We have contacted the board via the letter we sent. That is all.
Gerard Rijk, ING.
Gerard Rijk ING Analyst
Good afternoon. A question on the dividend. There was already a question on that, and you said
that the payout ratio could come down. Do you also mean that the absolute level of 2.44 might be
reduced (technical difficulty) level of 2007, and was the reason (technical difficulty) so strongly
while maybe there were already some initial plans to take a look at Anheuser-Busch?
Second question is about the interest rate about well, you dont elaborate yet on what rate
(technical difficulty) to be, therefore, maybe further rising short-term interest rates?
Third question is about the Heineken deals with Anheuser-Busch. How do you think in Argentina,
Chile and in Russia and Italy how you can handle that?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Let me start from the last question. I think as we see the potential to take the Budweiser
brand, develop it across our footprint, of course again, we are looking for this as a long-term
proposition. And for sure as I said in some markets, we will get a couple of years to regain the
brand or to recover the brand from an existing contract that may have. For sure that is in the
plans. But again, we are here for the long-term and that is still consistent with a business
combination when it happens that you have to review contracts on licensing agreements.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
The first question I think was related to the dividend of 2.44. That level will have to be
adjusted assuming thats some new equity that will be issued as part of this transaction. And what
we said it is fair to expect at this stage is for the equivalent implied dividend to be reduced
during the next two to three years, but they are resuming to this current level afterwards.
I think the second question was related to cost of capital, and what we assume is that the combined
entity on a pro forma basis, this combined entity will be (inaudible) stay zero investment-grade
rating, which means at least BBB credit profile, and therefore, the expected cost of funds should
be consistent to debt credit.
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Jun. 12. 2008 / 9:30AM ET, INB.BR Inbev InBev To Discuss Proposed Combination with Anheuser-Busch (Conference Call)
Reg Watson, Standard Life.
Reg Watson Standard Life Analyst
I guess the timing of this deal is somewhat unfortunate, hot on the heels of a tough Q1 and
youre flagging a difficult Q2. Some more uncharitable commentators in the market have suggested
that perhaps the growth engine of InBev is broken and that you are doing this deal in order to
boost growth going forward, because you wont find it internally. What would you say to counter
those naysayers?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
I think the people that say that, they dont know us. I think people that know us know that
weve been in the business for 20 years, that we have shares in the Company; that of course we
manage the business for all sorts of horizons, but of course what matters most for us is the
long-term. And yes, we had a first tough quarter. Yes, we indicated that we will get to better
waters in the second half of this year, but again, we are here for the long-term.
Weve had tough quarters before, and I think this is not an excuse for us to stop pursuing things
that we believe are great for the Company and value creation for shareholders.
Reg Watson Standard Life Analyst
Okay, thank you. And you have always made it clear that there is no such thing as a profit
holiday. Can you assure us that your bonus targets will still be set this year as they were at the
beginning of the year regardless of any acquisition that you might make?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Yes, and we are working very hard to get to them because we had a bad first quarter. So the
targets wont change.
Reg Watson Standard Life Analyst
All right. Thank you and good luck.
Kris Kippers, Petercam.
Kris Kippers Petercam Analyst
Good afternoon. A small question on the change in strategy. How come that you are willing to
give up your emerging play and go for a 50% stake of the biggest beer market or the most profitable
beer market in the world? Thank you.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Well, for a couple of things, Kris. First because we think the US we think it is the fact
that the US is the number two volume beer market in the world, but number one in terms of margin
pull, so that is very attractive. It is a mature market in terms. I mean, it grows slower, but it
is not declining. And there are segments within the market that are growing very fast like the
import and lights, and we have the brands for you.
Plus we have a great route to market, and we think with the experience we have in Canada in
developing Budweiser and Bud Light in Canada in a North American type environment, fighting against
the same kind of competition we have in the US, be it Coors Light or Miller, we think we have
developed jointly with AB a way that can be transplanted to a different market, but not so
different like the US.
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I dont think it is a change in strategy. I think as we completed the first three years of our
combination with Interbrew AmBev, I think we are now in the phase of looking for the future, the
next three years, five years, ten years. And we saw this as a great, compelling opportunity. It is
very, very hard to pass. It has all the elements of the kind of businesses we like, great brand,
great group of people, 50% share, second-biggest market in the world volume-wise, first in profits
and a great wholesaler distribution network. So that is the kind of business we like.
Kris Kippers Petercam Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Paul Hofman, Cheavreux.
Paul Hofman Cheuvreux Analyst
Good afternoon, good morning. One thing about the investment process, what kind of proceeds or
what kind of divestments are you looking at? Is it purely InBev, or are you also looking at other
Busch units?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
We look at it on a kind of package of noncore assets across the combined business, which means
InBev and AB assets.
Paul Hofman Cheuvreux Analyst
So you dont rule out any purely (inaudible) purely InBev? Is there some kind of a split
you are looking at or ?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
No, we are looking at across the board.
Paul Hofman Cheuvreux Analyst
Okay and one final question. In the presentation, you mentioned 12 times EBITDA. Is that
including also the EBITDA from Grupo Modelo, the 50% stake? How do you treat that?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
We discount it for market value.
Paul Hofman Cheuvreux Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Nico Lambrechts, Merrill Lynch.
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A follow-up question, just Felipe, you usually mentioned that optimal capital structure for
the InBev group was around two times. What rating would that have given you, and the BBB rating,
what would that imply in terms of a debt-to-EBITDA multiple equivalent?
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
The optimal capital structure I would say is under business as usual. That is between 1.8 and
2 times. That implies a very strong credit rating profile. For sure, investment grade while keeping
headroom for potential accretive M&A transactions. The proposed transaction is of a
transformational nature. It cannot be even compared to business as usual approach. Therefore, net
debt to EBITDA giving our focus to minimize the use of equity should be much higher than that
number. However, the maximum we could say is that we are assuming not less than $40 billion of new
debt as part of this transaction.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
Understood. Second question, if I may. When the Interbrew and sorry the InBev sorry
Interbrew AmBev merger was announced, the total cost savings was EUR280 million. Half of that
EUR140 million was cost savings. The other half, EUR140 million, was commercial savings. Part of
that just taking the Brahma brand into Interbrew. Would it be possible to indicate in terms of your
synergies, your cost savings, would the split be 50-50 again or would it be close to 90-10?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Nico, at this point, we are not pointing any direction in that respect. We are not splitting
that as you wanted. What I can say is that from the Interbrew times, we learned a lot on how to
take brands to other markets. And were going to apply that learning together with our colleagues
from AB if the combination is realized.
Nico Lambrechts Merrill Lynch Analyst
If I may then, one of your ambitions were to take Brahma into Europe and across European
margins. Could you comment on how successful that was and what would be different with the
Budweiser brand?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Im going to say, again, we learned a couple things. First, it was successful in some
countries, not all of them. What we learned from them is that it is very hard to do a multicountry
expansion if there is no brand top of mind and knowledge and consideration with consumers. And that
is the big difference here between expanding Brahma across geographies and Budweiser. Budweiser is
known by consumers, but it is not available in many cases. And that is where the opportunity lies,
this gap between knowledge and availability.
Mark Gillespie, MainFirst Bank.
Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
I just want to get back on this whole issue about the brand because just in Western Europe I
dont think you fully answered my question from before. And then I also question what if you are
adding the acquired companies, then adding value to what youre doing in terms of its brand, isnt
it likely they will be holding out for much better price than the $65 you are offering them?
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Sorry. Can you repeat the question, please?
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Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
I dont think we fully covered the issue about the access to the brand. The key point is you
have a number of Western European markets where you have very good distribution, but where you
wont be able to use the Budweiser brand. Im wondering how you get around that.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
First, we have to understand market by market. For example, we understand that (technical
difficulty) first, we dont have all the detail. If youre referring to the Budvar litigation or
?
Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
Yes.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Not all details are public, so that is something but because we are in the market, we see
what is going on. In some markets, they are out, but that can always change. And again, we are here
for the long term. In some markets, they can do Anheuser-Busch Bud, but not Budweiser, and that is
fine.
I think the big difference here is that in some of those markets they are they have been dealt
with as a licensed brand as a side business by somebody who only gets a small percentage of their
total business. If we were to combine the companies, it would be a wholly-owned brand of ours being
fully supported by our company. And that is the big difference that we see as an opportunity.
Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
Okay. Then just in terms of the value creation, because this is like basically, you are
saying that the value creation is not just going all one-way. It is not simply you running the
Anheuser-Busch business better; it is them helping you run your business better because youve got
access to that brand.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Sure.
Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
Is there any do you have a mental number then? You must clearly have a number then in your
mind of what value you are bringing in from the business in terms of the uplift to your existing
business. Im just worried if that is so clear in your thinking and is so clear in what you are
saying publicly, rather than simply as a cost extraction process, that that might encourage
Anheuser-Busch shareholders to be thinking about a lot more than simply $65.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Well, Mark, at this point we do have a number, but we are not disclosing the number. What we
are saying is that the dimensions for our synergies will be along the top line as your first
question related to as a scale, combining two large companies and of course all the benefits that
come with it; procurement and centralization of procurement along with scale, best practice
sharing, working cap and CapEx, and overlap in some geographies and some admin functions.
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So that, when you compound all that, you get to a number that really makes a lot of sense for us in
pursuing the deal. Not to talk about the strategic part of the deal, of course.
Stuart Reeve, BlackRock.
Stuart Reeve BlackRock Analyst
Good afternoon. I understand youre putting all the debt into InBev. I heard that clearly. I
just wondered if there is going to be any change in a way that cash is going to be extracted from
AmBev up to InBev and the parent company.
Felipe Dutra InBev NV CFO
No, AmBev will continue its own business, focus on the existing territories being Latin
America, being North America. And the board should continue to decide capital structure decisions
at the AmBev level, take into account what is best to its shareholders, of shareholders, including
InBev and other shareholders.
Mark Gillespie MainFirst Bank Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any
closing comments.
Carlos Brito InBev NV CEO
Let me say again thank you very much for all of you joining us on such a short notice. We are
very excited about this deal. We are very committed about it. We sent this letter yesterday. We are
trying to engage their board. They said they would analyze and they would say something about our
proposal.
And our intention here is really to engage as quick as possible with the Anheuser-Busch board and
to our management. We believe this combination, again, is in the best interest of all constituents,
including both companies shareholders, employees, consumers, wholesalers, business partners and
the communities they serve.
So this is a very compelling combination and it creates a significant value for both companies
shareholders and a lot of opportunities for the two combined businesses. So again, thank you very
much for joining, and see you next time. Bye-bye.
Thank you. This does conclude todays conference call.
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